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		<title>Comment on REVIEW: Theatre Set-Up: The Merchant of Venice by Recommended Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Recommended Reading]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I usually do not drop a lot of remarks, but i did a few searching and 
wound up here REVIEW: Theatre Set-Up: The Merchant of Venice &#124; Clamorous Voice.
And I actually do have 2 questions for you if it&#039;s allright. Could it be simply me or does it look like some of the remarks appear like coming from brain dead individuals? :-P And, if you are writing at additional online social sites, I&#039;d 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually do not drop a lot of remarks, but i did a few searching and<br />
wound up here REVIEW: Theatre Set-Up: The Merchant of Venice | Clamorous Voice.<br />
And I actually do have 2 questions for you if it&#8217;s allright. Could it be simply me or does it look like some of the remarks appear like coming from brain dead individuals? <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  And, if you are writing at additional online social sites, I&#8217;d<br />
like to follow anything new you have to post.</p>
<p>Could you list of the complete urls of your community sites like your linkedin profile, Facebook<br />
page or twitter feed?</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by therealghostkiller</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DITTO. he&#039;s not meant to be older than 29...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DITTO. he&#8217;s not meant to be older than 29&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by clamorousvoice</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlotte: I KNOW. I&#039;m 26, and yet I feel like I need to go round The Young with flashcards, saying things like &#039;this is Jarvis Cocker&#039;; &#039;this is a dial-up modem&#039;; &#039;this is a football sticker showing a player from Sheffield Wednesday; we kept these in albums but I don&#039;t know why&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlotte: I KNOW. I&#8217;m 26, and yet I feel like I need to go round The Young with flashcards, saying things like &#8216;this is Jarvis Cocker&#8217;; &#8216;this is a dial-up modem&#8217;; &#8216;this is a football sticker showing a player from Sheffield Wednesday; we kept these in albums but I don&#8217;t know why&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by clamorousvoice</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the version of Myrtle that Nick narrates in the book is more reductive than the performance Isla Fisher gave (and, from what I remember of it, the Myrtle in the film version which starred Toby Stephens as the world’s least probable Gatsby). I don’t think Myrtle’s a whore. I think she’s portrayed as little better by Nick’s narration in the book.

I’d forgotten that the book version of Myrtle is meant to be overweight/heavy-set; you’re quite right. Retaining it would have been a more faithful nod to the adaptation – but I’m not sure that ‘sole fat character in film is the one who ends up beaten by her husband and run over by ultra-thin wife of lover, body flying through the air, n.b. ultra-thin wife is the one who survives’ was, or would be a particularly great message, either. Plus, since the vast majority of cinema-goers worldwide will engage with the film in lieu of the book, or ahead of reading the book, or with only minimal knowledge of the book (I don’t think this matters; I’m just pointing out probabilities), I don’t think that image would have registered as an instance of textual fidelity so much as an image of the only visibly larger woman in the film ending up gorily dead whilst people rush to protect the thin little blonde girl, in a world where there will be no retribution.

This isn’t to say that I think it was a moral good of Luhrmann to change Myrtle’s weight in the casting, because I don’t. I just don’t see Fitzgerald’s depiction of [the mistress who gets brutalised, then killed] as fat as a morally good or fat-positive gesture in the first place. But you’ve reminded me of a detail I’d forgotten, and complicated my thinking, so – thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the version of Myrtle that Nick narrates in the book is more reductive than the performance Isla Fisher gave (and, from what I remember of it, the Myrtle in the film version which starred Toby Stephens as the world’s least probable Gatsby). I don’t think Myrtle’s a whore. I think she’s portrayed as little better by Nick’s narration in the book.</p>
<p>I’d forgotten that the book version of Myrtle is meant to be overweight/heavy-set; you’re quite right. Retaining it would have been a more faithful nod to the adaptation – but I’m not sure that ‘sole fat character in film is the one who ends up beaten by her husband and run over by ultra-thin wife of lover, body flying through the air, n.b. ultra-thin wife is the one who survives’ was, or would be a particularly great message, either. Plus, since the vast majority of cinema-goers worldwide will engage with the film in lieu of the book, or ahead of reading the book, or with only minimal knowledge of the book (I don’t think this matters; I’m just pointing out probabilities), I don’t think that image would have registered as an instance of textual fidelity so much as an image of the only visibly larger woman in the film ending up gorily dead whilst people rush to protect the thin little blonde girl, in a world where there will be no retribution.</p>
<p>This isn’t to say that I think it was a moral good of Luhrmann to change Myrtle’s weight in the casting, because I don’t. I just don’t see Fitzgerald’s depiction of [the mistress who gets brutalised, then killed] as fat as a morally good or fat-positive gesture in the first place. But you’ve reminded me of a detail I’d forgotten, and complicated my thinking, so – thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by Charlotte</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great review, but... Noel Fielding is 40??? I find that so traumatic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, but&#8230; Noel Fielding is 40??? I find that so traumatic!</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by Dani</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WTF. That&#039;s not what the writer said at all. Plus, we (I say this as a poor fat woman) don&#039;t benefit from having a 2D character like Myrtle, whose death matters because it&#039;s a plot point that affects the love story between the thin pretty white characters, be fat AS WELL as poor. And to have that as ANOTHER reason why she dies. If she&#039;d been fat it&#039;d just have been that the fat girl has to die. Maybe that&#039;s what F. Scott Fitzgerald intended, but I don&#039;t want that shitty sizeism replicated. Myrtle being fat wouldn&#039;t change her characterization in the film, just the take-home message about how as a fat woman your only place is dead in the road when it comes to the beautiful people. The standard of attractive = thin sucks, but we already know that. And it&#039;s there in the book, Tom would always choose Daisy over Myrtle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF. That&#8217;s not what the writer said at all. Plus, we (I say this as a poor fat woman) don&#8217;t benefit from having a 2D character like Myrtle, whose death matters because it&#8217;s a plot point that affects the love story between the thin pretty white characters, be fat AS WELL as poor. And to have that as ANOTHER reason why she dies. If she&#8217;d been fat it&#8217;d just have been that the fat girl has to die. Maybe that&#8217;s what F. Scott Fitzgerald intended, but I don&#8217;t want that shitty sizeism replicated. Myrtle being fat wouldn&#8217;t change her characterization in the film, just the take-home message about how as a fat woman your only place is dead in the road when it comes to the beautiful people. The standard of attractive = thin sucks, but we already know that. And it&#8217;s there in the book, Tom would always choose Daisy over Myrtle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [REVIEW] The Great Gatsby, May 2013. by fictavia</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re calling Myrtle a whore because she&#039;s having an affair? Why no mention of Tom&#039;s infidelity? It very much took two to tango in the book, AND Tom was a violent controlling man to boot. He is infinitely worse than her. To pick her up on it but make no mention of Tom&#039;s part is pretty short-sighted.

I&#039;d also contest that film!Myrtle is not an improvement on book!Myrtle, purely because Luhrmann erased the fact that she&#039;s meant to be heavy-set. Way to keep on perpetuating society&#039;s image of &#039;attractive = thin&quot;, Lurhmann.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re calling Myrtle a whore because she&#8217;s having an affair? Why no mention of Tom&#8217;s infidelity? It very much took two to tango in the book, AND Tom was a violent controlling man to boot. He is infinitely worse than her. To pick her up on it but make no mention of Tom&#8217;s part is pretty short-sighted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also contest that film!Myrtle is not an improvement on book!Myrtle, purely because Luhrmann erased the fact that she&#8217;s meant to be heavy-set. Way to keep on perpetuating society&#8217;s image of &#8216;attractive = thin&#8221;, Lurhmann.</p>
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